Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Broadmoor (album)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Neıl ☎ 10:06, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Broadmoor (album)[edit]

Per WP:MUSIC, this album and its constituent songs never charted, therefore this album is not notable. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 14:55, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per failing WP:MUSIC ArcAngel (talk) 15:24, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - per WP:MUSIC. Also, from the article: "That's as far as it got." Not exactly a ringing endorsement. Tnxman307 (talk) 15:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - can you please explain me how does the article fail per WP:MUSIC? Read Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Albums. That full-lenght demo album arouse the interest of worldwide famous metal band and Byzantine got a record label only because of that demo. And it was the first album with the new drummer. I can show enough of sources about that album. So according to Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Albums it is notable, because it was very important in the band's career. There was also a speedy deletion on 2000-2001 Demos under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion...But that criteria says "A7 applies only to articles about web content or articles on people and organizations themselves, not articles on their books, albums, software and so on". So the speedy deletion was against the policy. Can you please explain me how could that happen??? LYKANTROP 16:23, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- It was speedily deleted under {{G4}}, not {{A7}}. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 16:24, 1 May 2008 (UTC) See: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2000-2001 Demos[reply]
  - That argument is totally obsolete and does not match anymore. The article was not a copy of the old version. I have never seen the old one. If I show reliable sources it is notable according to Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Albums.-- LYKANTROP 16:44, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - So where are the reliable sources? Black Kite 17:54, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      - Was the demo on any significant chart, such as Billboard? No. Did the demo win any awards? No. Right there the album fails two criteria of the section you mention. If there was significant news coverage, you need to reference it in the article, if any exists. ArcAngel (talk) 17:55, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      - 2000/2001 Demos sources - for exapmle here (also in the biography), here or here. I am not creating this article again. Just the speedy deletion was against policy.
      - Broadmoor/European Sampler - for example also here (and in the text), here or here and of course also here in the official biography. Can you tell me which policy talks about significant chart and awards?-- LYKANTROP 18:27, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        I am applying Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Songs here, as individual songs make an album, and I don't see one on that album that has done anything worthy. ArcAngel (talk) 20:11, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        Are you serious? Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Songs is for articles about songs, not articles about albums.-- LYKANTROP 06:47, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        Songs make up an album, so if any song on that album charted, then there might be a case to keep the article. As it stands, no songs have charted (since the album is a demo), and therefore falls under the demo section of Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Albums. If you can find better coverage for this album (such as AMG, for example), then as I stated, there might be a case for keeping. ArcAngel (talk) 16:11, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        Who says that those sources are not enough? They represent the importance of the album.-- LYKANTROP 22:37, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:MUSIC. Esradekan Gibb ^"Talk" 23:56, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Where does WP:MUSIC say that album must chart to be notable?-- LYKANTROP 06:47, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Non-notable. The album after it is the same album, but with a different name and released a year later. I suggest someone writes about Broadmoor in The Fundamental Component entry. Blizzard Beast ^$ODIN$ 18:25, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep nothing in WP:MUSIC indicates that an album must appear on a chart. Have y'all read WP:MUSIC? If Blizzard Beast's comment above is correct, then the correct action would be a merger rahter than a deletion. -MrFizyx (talk) 06:28, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 15:26, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.